The 200sx collar is matched to the 200sx clutch which (although the same 200mm diameter) probably has a different diaphragm height than the 510. What causes failure in dry clutch systems? I do have an early 510 fork and adjustable pushrod I can try to put in. Perhaps it's time for a clutch kit. My question now: my clutch is like a VW - engages easy and immediately but needs to be fully 'at the grip' to get into Neutral (Ugh). A friend of mine told me you can adjust the clutch pedal so that it has some dead play in it and that way the clutch doesn't actually engage until further down the push. Just before we kick off, a quick word to just what a clutch actually is. It's very light and engages way at the top. Also never ever rev up the engine with clutch attached and drum removed! I am not sure what the previous owner put in there. By The issue I’m having is the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. Did a clutch job on my 91 4runner SR5, 3.0 4x4 5 speed with a Luk Pro gold clutch kit, turned flywheel etc. About inch and a half to two inch from when pedal is depressed. New friction plates will fix the problem. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. It's wrongly in the 200mm list. 3. I've also seen two different length slave cylinders could yours be the longer one instead of the shorty? I also run the 4 speed clutch fork on my 200sx 5 spped so I need its loose. Dimension A looks like it's about 48.7mm (I got it as close as possible to the retainer edge). Heyo My k4 600 (9500kms) has a bit of a clutch issue. 1. WHY DIDN'T THE SHOP YOU BROUGHT IT TO ADJUST IT ? My clutch engages far to 'late' when i let go of the clutch lever. Yes, this is "normal." No just bought the truck last night, 2000 - Answered by a verified Ford Mechanic. You don’t loose any top speed to speek of though. I bought the car this way several years ago and it's always engaged the clutch up higher in the pedal travel. HAPPY EASTER ! 126 Posts . My first clutch always engaged at idle and the only way I could have fixed it was to put in higher-rate springs. It's possible that I have the wrong slave cylinder. No. Looks like a 240mm clutch collar. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good. On my 2006, the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. I know I need about 1" of free play in the pedal. It should be 1.52" or just under 90mm. i have a smidge of freeplay dialed in. Either it gets too much gas or not enought. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. I'm not sure if it's the clutch or the cylinder. Did you adjust the slave cylinder before removing the tranny? Because of the detent in my clutch pedal, this can make it hard to control the rate at which the clutch engages. I just installed a luk pro gold clutch and r151f trans. Edit- it looks like I have this part already. What is the mimimum speed I need to travel at to stop my clutch from failing? As the Clutch wore, the engagement point traveled further and further up until it had no "noticeable" engagement point. This is what the clutch disc is connected to. The problem was fixed but now it engages the clutch about 1 inch off the ground. Can you adjust travel at the master? I didn't adjust it since it was not an adjustable type. Learn how to install a dry clutch by CLICKING HERE. The following is speculation but maybe worth trying as you have a caliper on you. I … Hope this weekend works out. But as of now, the clutch engages right when the pedal is at the top of its travel-- basically almost all the way out. In retrospect I could have tried a shorter modified pushrod temporarily to see if would improve. Place the collar and bearing against the diaphragm fingers and measure down, from the very back of the collar, to the clutch disc contact surface on the flywheel. × it just needs to be adjusted. ? I will try to confirm the stroke after I put it together. Display as a link instead, × I will compare it to a stock 510 part. I would like to confirm if I have the correct part for a 200sx dogleg trans and a 200mm clutch. In post 6 that's a 510 set up right there this will work for the stock 510 clutch and the Roadster clutch as the diaprame heath is the same. and have bleed my clutch 4 times now and it still engages right off the floor and is hard to shift because the clutch is dragging. I have a 2001 Goldwing with 114,000 miles. When your foot is off the clutch pedal, everything spins together. Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. Check the travel of the push rod. I have a manual MKV FSI GTI. as the 5 speeds came and usea different slave cylinder rod which I think is shorter. fine by me. The clutch is Why does my 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee keep needing to be jumped? Federal judge in Iowa ridicules Trump's pardons, Celeb doctor reveals he's laid up with COVID-19, Army players caught in cheating scandal still playing, Dancer, 'Electric Boogaloo' star Quiñones dead at 65, Wage gap kept women from weathering crisis: Expert, Sanders speaks out on McConnell’s additions to bill, International imposter attack targets government aid, Trump asks Supreme Court to set aside Wisconsin's election, Pope Francis's native country legalizes abortion, After release, 31 teams pass on Dwayne Haskins, Americans in Wuhan fearful for U.S. relatives. You can post now and register later. If you had to divide the clutch space into 1/4's, the clutch would engage in the later 1/4.. my friends would engage in the 3/4's ..or in other words theirs would engage about under an inch as you let go.. but mine engages nearly at the very end !!   You cannot paste images directly. If you let it out just the slightest bit it starts to engage the clutch. #2: Your clutch is actually worn out close to the end of it's maximum service life and will need to be replaced. Not positive but you have to figure this out. Iknew I should have down it myself. The clutch engaged at approximately 1/3 … We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. How is an EFI to Carburetor generally conversion done? There is no dead play in the pedal at all. Can someone confirm the correct release bearing collar length? That is why the clutch seems okay at higher revs. My replacement Spec setup engages a little higher, but it is all the way out sooner. I guess I will order a replacement bearing and see. Stock flywheel, FMS King Cobra clutch & PP, IIRC stock cable and FMS aluminum quadrant. Clear editor. 2. Either it gets too much gas or not enought. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Here's the one for the 510 clutch, top 30501-N1601. Dimension L+C is 34.7mm. Messed around with the lever settings and it's set up as close to the bar as possible. Table copied from the Internet. 1970 2-door 510, 1977 620 KC, 1973 610 Goon. to each his/her own. My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. In the center of the flywheel is a smaller bearing that centers the shaft so it can rotate as the clutch assembly engages and disengages. Riding the clutch, driving for long distances with the clutch partially engaged; Dropping the clutch, i.e.- racing starts; Slowing down the vehicle by downshifting and using the engine backpressure to slow the car down. I went and dug out a 510 part from a spare 4pd and it is measuring much closer. D52E, January 3, 2016 in Drivetrain. The clutch pedal. Edit: FYI, too = top… I had a loose nut on my clutch pedal assembly so I tightened it and got my pedal to work again (it had 4 inches of freeplay and didn't engage the clutch) I had it welded as well. Discussion Starter • #1 • Aug 20, 2012. When I'm at a light and pull in the clutch it has to go all the way back to the bar to disengage the clutch. When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. SPONSORED LINKS. Joined: Apr 29, 2009 When you press the pedal in, the assembly disengages. Thanks. HI, IF THE CLUTCH HAS ONLY ABOUT 2K ON IT,THE PEDAL SHOULD ENGAGE AT ABOUT 2" OR SO FROM THE FLOOR . Any help would be greatly appreciated. I still can't find the correct part for my combination of parts. × The correct collar for the 510 clutch is part # 30501-K0400. Fine, I can adjust that at the firewall. Upload or insert images from URL. Your "high" clutch engagement is, again like worn brake pads/shoes.   Your previous content has been restored. Im still deciding if I should just buy a new clutch kit with the matching collar and call it good. My other 5spds weren't like this at all. Difficulty Changing Gears I remove the transmission today thinking my clutch was worn because the pedal would engage at the top of the pedal travel. My new clutch started to engage about an inch off the floor. How are you supposed to go to the shop? My 2002 bmw 330xi clutch doesn't engage when it's all the way down. The 510 collar is intimately matched to work with the 510's clutch, after all it came with it. The belt is gripped at all times and the clutches inside the clutch engage to get you moving. the adjuster assembaly is on the top of the pedal. HOW DOES THE CPR SR CLUTCH WORK? Synthetics can swell the cork on the friction plates causing the clutch to drag. Probably what has happened is the collar from the 200sx was left on the clutch arm on the dogleg and used. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. I got a new slave cly. 1971 510 BRE Race car Two 1969 Datsun 510's 1965 Ford Mustang1994 Ford Mustang, '76 710. prevoius... '78 620, '71 521, '68 510, new '76 B-210 '74 710 sedan. Yeah that 30501-0H600 is for a 240mm clutch from a D21 or Exterra. I think I might have the wrong release bearing collar. How does the Dry Centrifugal Clutch work? What type car uses Sylvania 1157 LL light bulbs. The duraclutch uses centrifugal clutches to engage the primary clutch.   Your link has been automatically embedded. First of all I have a 92 with a 3vze. Searched to no avail. Clutch engages at the top can I adjust that so it engages closer to the floor? It doesn't seem to be slipping. Other than the engagement point being all the way up at the top … 1. This smell is usually created by the friction of a slipping clutch. Shops says nothing is wrong with clutch. Do you. How do i fix this?? now if  200SX CLUTCH IS USED THE DIAPRAME HEIGHT IS DIFFERENT AND maybe the slave rod is to long/shot. The original 510 collar will work. Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. Thanks. What's your clutch like? Paste as plain text instead, × PAIN IN THE NECK! UNLESS IT WAS NEVER ADJUSTED PROPERLY AFTER INSTALLATION. The clutch in my car is 10mm shorter. MaybeI might want a later release collar (30501-0H600)? Instead, I have to release it almost all the way up before giving it gas. Please rate my answer. As far as I know, the newer clutches are much better, as I don't have any problems with mine engaging at idle. have the same problem? When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. The clutch actually engages way at the top. There is just barely enough room to have two fingers on the grip in between the clutch lever. Clutch only engages at the top Discussion in ' The Hokey Ass Message Board ' started by poboyross , Jun 13, 2009 . my set up (old clutch that the previous owner had installed. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good. They are really good for heavy hauling and towing or slow technical riding. then just take it to one of the shops that are telling you theres nothing wrong with it and hire them to adjust it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. I think I might have the wrong release bearing collar.   Pasted as rich text. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Installed a 3250DD and it doesn't grab until the pedal is almost fully out. Get your answers by asking now. If it’s accompanied by a rattling sound when the clutch is not in use, which increases in volume when the clutch engages, then you know that you might be looking at replacing your clutch soon. Thanks. Gas milage has gone way down. Amazing! Do I pry this cover off first before using the transmission line removal tool because I can't seem to slide it through as is? i like a quicker engagement, and since i know i have some freeplay, i … YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THE CLUTCH ADJUSTED ELSEWHERE. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. After speaking with a couple of people I purchased and installed a new push rod and push rod bushing. I have had a clutch that grabs a 1/4" off the floorboard and a clutch that grabs 1/4" from the top. My stock clutch engaged at about 50%. When the dealer reads my key everything is okay but sometimes the inactive light comes on and is shaky why? My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. Why are most auto shops open Monday through Friday from 8-5? The current amount of clutch drag is not enough to harness the power of an engine rev. This is in my '88 and happened after I pulled out the 331 and put the stock engine back in place. Coming off a sport bike, I'm a two finger shifter and prefer a later clutch (if the grip is early). Even with it depressed all the way to the floor, still clunks into gear. LOL). When my stock clutch was on its last legs it was near the top of travel on the return where it started to engage. Edit: I went to rockauto and confirmed bore size on slave from 510 to 200sx. Learn how to service and repair a CPR SR clutch by CLICKING HERE . It's also possible you have a defective clutch. How do i fix this?? it came with a TOB, plate, disc and a crutch. ! GOOD LUCK. Yes. Your clutch pedal should move down 3/4 inch to 1 inch without effort and then require a good deal more effort to travel the rest of the way down to the floor. the clutch still engages about half way down. Most people work those hours. I bought it used and the clutch has always felt a bit weird to me. Right now the clutch engages at the very top. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. I remove the transmission today thinking my clutch was worn because the pedal would engage at the top of the pedal travel. It looks like the 510 had a 3/4" (12/16") but the 200sx had 11/16". CONTENTS. Hopefully I get time this weekend to work on it again. Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. The S10 200sx collar is part # 30501-K0400. I've had the car a bit and am mostly used to it but was wondering if this is normal? This pedal free-play ensures that when you release the pedal, the clutch disk is fully engaged. 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